Healthcare Facebookin’ with a Happy Socialist

This may shock you, but I have liberal friends. Extremely liberal friends too. This one is from Denmark, a country of 5.5 million that is probably the most socialist in Europe. And she’s just delighted that it is so. We have great friendly exchanges. I think she’s crazy; she thinks I’m nuts. Here is some dialogue off our FaceBook accounts.

First: She voted “yes” in the “Are you in favor of universal heathcare?” poll. You’ll laugh as I tell you that I checked “yes” too … I just don’t want government to do it. Then I commented on her post.

We already have universal health care. Ask any illegal alien receiving “servicios-gratis” in another one of the soon-to-be-shutdown bankrupt hospitals in Southern California.

And

39% yes, 16% no, 44% hell no. I would be ALL FOR IT if it was handled outside the inefficient, overbearing, nanny-state federal government. What if the hospitals that offered free service (not just ER visits) for low income / uninsured people got tax breaks? That’s ALMOST like “government run” healthcare, but without the top down bureaucratic madness inherent in any government system. Maybe hospitals and medical centers could COMPETE for these tax breaks, by serving a greater percentage of uninsured in the community … I see efficiency brewing!!

Second: She sent me an article about insurance reform, that I actually sympathized with. See? I’m not the cold “let ‘em die” Obama-opposer the liberal lamestream media would have you believe. I just don’t think that government should be in the healthcare business, except for a TINY bit of regulation.

That was a GREAT article, and really highlighted the strong need for insurance reform. See? I value “reform,” but I still don’t want “government healthcare.” Medicare, Medicaid and the VA are statistically much more wasteful than private systems. They don’t have to be efficient: they don’t have to, ‘cuz it’s just taxpayer money, and government takes care of it.
I think I would be open to more insurance regulation (CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?) But we should START with “portability” and “individual” pools, and make them competitive over state lines (currently prohibited by the federal gov’t).
And let’s get real: if we STARTED years ago with “tort reform” we may not even be having this discussion!

And

Question on that last one: in Denmark, is there tort limits? Can a Danish citizen sue a doctor or hospital for millions in “pain and suffering” and a “lifetime of lost wages”?

She replied…

I think they can, but it has yet to happen. As a healthcare provider you are insured through your workplace or union, so we do not have to pay insurance against malpractice out of our own pocket, only if we work out side the system, in some kind of private facility.

And its my blog, I get to have the last word.

First: “It has yet to happen”? How come people who are the victims of gross negligence don’t seek redress (at least to have consequences for the provider that made the mistake)? Is it because the actually can’t? Second: How many people operate “outside” that socialized system? Very few, I’m sure.  I’m sure the Danish government makes it is WAY too expensive to thrive outside the government system. And that is where the government owns you. On that note, I came up with a new “rear window sign” idea:

I’m here to bring you hope!

But it’s gonna cost ya,

So give me your wallet.

Hope you have to pay dearly for is not hope;

it’s slavery painted as “good intentions.”

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